Bedroom Talk

Can We Not Leave It In The Bedroom???

I have heard LGBT's say in responce to someone protesting gay issues being covered in public schools in this way. 'What do you care what I do in the privacy of my own home?' I would gladly leave you to the privacy of your bedroom. It is when you enter the public forum and public schools when my hackles get raised. I think we can all agree that if it was left in the privacy of ones bedroom it would not be a controversial public debate. So my question is can we leave the children alone in the school systems? Can we stop flooding the court system with yet another frivolous lawsuit? Can we send our lobbyists home so politicians can deal with real issues, and threats to national security? Can we get it off the media and prime time news in order to place it where it belongs? The privacy of a consenting adults bedroom? Can we, or is the statement just a pointless statement to divert from the actual issue at hand? Folks, I understand you think your homosexuality trancsends all borders and values, but the fact is I have heard gays use the statement, not heteros. I do not need a lecture on how LGBTs view thenmselves as a subculture. You say subculture, I say fringe group. Tomayto tomahto. If there is a real issue overshadowed then by all means can we address the issue? Define the word homosexuality and then expalin how the definition transcends anything but sex.

Public Comments

1. Homosexuality doesn't stop at the bedroom door, though, and that's the fundamental problem with this argument. People have the right to form relationships with each other. They have a right to build lives together. It's cruel and unfair to tell people that they're not entitled to experience or express their love in public because it makes /some/ people feel uncomfortable.
2. Why is it when straight people and some gay people hear gay they think sex? Being gay sex is only a small part of who I am and I don't talk about it in public. Ever.
3. The LGBT is more than a label of sexual orientation. We are a sub-culture. We have our own values and morals. I believe to ''leave it in the bedroom'' is insulting. I am gay 24 hrs a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. It isn't just about sex, it's so much more. BUT so many people want to put the focus on just the sexual aspect of our lives. It's interesting that we are the ONLY minority in history that is judged on sexual practices. You can be as freaky as you want, sexually speaking, but as long as you are straight, society leaves you alone. There is a much deeper issue that is being overshadowed.
4. Being gay or lesbian or bisexual is more than just what you do in the bedroom though. Sex is a part, but not the whole. It's love. Young people growing up who have feelings for the same sex are often confused, if the issues were discussed even just a little in school, perhaps there would be less ignorance on the subject. Gay teenagers are more likely to commit suicide than straight teenagers because of the confusion and fear of not being accepted. If parents truly don't want their children to hear about it, then they could sign one of the forms or something so they don't hear about it in school. Sex education, even about straight couples, is not shoved down the throat in the school system because parents can opt their children out of it. I don't see the problem with an option program to help young people's lives. How could this be a problem at all?
5. You ask quite a few questions. Most of them appear to be completely rhetorical: You want politicians to deal with real issues. They are dealing with issues, just not issues you care about, so you deem them not real. You want children left alone in the school systems. That would be hard to do, since they are there to be educated, and they will encounter LGBT people if straight, and need to know what it is. You cling to the belief that orientation is a moral issue and don't want them exposed to it. You don't want the court system flooded with frivolous lawsuits. If you've never been beaten because you don't conform to someone's idea of masculine or feminine norms, you may consider that frivolous I guess. I don't. There are several other questions, but the point is the same with each: You believe that orientation is a moral issue. It can only be a moral issue if there is choice involved. So all the rhetorical devices in the world you employ will continue to fall flat.
6. Are you suggesting that we discontinue sex ed, in its entirety, and just write off all the kids- probably the majority- whose parents don't discuss these issues at home? Let them just learn about it from their peers, or figure it out on their own, or better yet, let other kids give your kids wrong information? Or are you suggesting that we go back to the good-old-days when we just "pretended" gays and lesbians did not exist, and only discuss heterosexual relationships in sex ed, in the hopes that by making them feel isolated and like freaks they'll be "scared straight" before they kill themselves? Added: "Define the word heterosexuality and then expalin how the definition transcends anything but sex." And, explain to me how a same-sex couple's "lifestyle choice" differs from that of an opposite-sex couple; I'll bet you can't come up with anything not copied-and-pasted from the American Family Association's collection of canned rhetoric and "studies" by discredited sociologists that are in their employ. P.S. When the Religious Right stops flooding the court system with frivolous lawsuits, and we start treating everyone equally regardless of sexual orientation and religion, it will cease to be prime time news and we will have no need for lawyers to assure we're not being forced to subsidize "the heterosexual lifestyle" and "the heterosexual agenda" and "the Christian agenda".
7. Sorry, when 99.9% of the movies, TV, radio, magazines, billboards, etc. etc. don't leave the straight "lifestyle" in the bedroom, and cram it down everyone's throat, you have no argument here. It is being taught in the schools as well. I see absolutely no problem in breaking this stranglehold and teaching diversity to school children. When you stop cramming your lifestyle down our throats, then we won't need the other 0.01% of classroom time to show students that humans differ from each other, and should be respected for this. In short, when you can leave it in the bedroom, we will too. Until then, please keep your prejudice to yourself.
8. You make a great point, except: Say you're a teacher and your students ask you if you're married, and all your co-workers are asking if you're single. If you're gay, are you supposed to deny that you're happily committed to a person of the same sex? Can you not take that person to the company picnic or holiday party? Or, say you're in the military and all your buddies are talking about F-IN chicks. But you don't like to do that. Are you supposed to pretend that you bang girls too? You're one of those people who think being gay is only about sex, and that gay people go around screaming "I have sex with men, deal with it!!!"
9. I totally agree. Everyone should get out of other people's buisiness. However, Society is the one who won't leave sex out of the equation, not gays. TV is basically hetero softcore porn nowadays, and frivolous lawsuits... Please. Lobbyists? You think that LGBT has powerful lobbyists that are stopping real things from going on? Stop deluding yourself and once you stop calling us close-minded, I'll stop calling you that, too.
10. When heterosexuals start leaving it in the bedroom and do not have public weddings and celebrate anniversaries and put pictures of spouses on desks at work and publicly hold hands and kiss in open airs and get tax breaks for being married and have legal rights in public forums because of thier heterosexual activities I will agree with you but until then you are wrong.
11. Perhaps you are a bit myopic. You seem to have no reservations about Straight sex being in public...the hand holding, the kissing, etc...and yet you are on a jag today about gays....perhaps you should re-read your questions..you may find you have an agenda you are unaware of. Gay parents seem to get your dander up, what else gay bothers you...everything? Stop hinding behind the "I don't mind what you do in private" and just come out and admit you do not like Gays...now that we are through that little exercise, perhaps, without a bible in hand, you could explain just what gays have done to you that makes you dislike them...I suspect you will find nothing in your past...other than the ramblings of a silly old man named, Liviticus. Get real.
12. I can't agree iwht you more. LGBT's are the only sexual group that formed a " culture" out of what they do. If they want people to stop paying attention to what they do in the bedroom, then they should cancel their " pride parades", stay out of our schools and leave it in the bedroom. You can't have it both ways.
13. I agree with you 100% that it should be left in the bedroom!!! Quite frankly, very few people that I know care about what I do. But as long as being straight is being pushed as the 'norm', and that being gay is restricted to not even being allowed to be discussed, as you suggest, quite frankly it is discrimination, in my book. If you can find a way to get ALL references of sexual identity out of the schools, then I agree with you. But that is an impossibility, since if jonny's 2 dad's show up on parent-teacher conference day, the issue is SURELY to be raised between the kids. A tolerant society needs to show that many ways of life are acceptible!